I normally don’t write blogs about news events or other media related activities, as I don’t want to get into lengthy debates with people. But when something occurs that makes my pee boil, then I simply have to share my thoughts. This discussion may perhaps be a little heated and biased at times, but it’s a way for me to debate this topic with my evil twin (in my head).
This latest attempt to seek easy money is making me disappointed in people’s greed. How bloody stupid is this law suit!? Starbucks Lawsuit – hot tamales. A cop suing Starbucks for spilling coffee on himself.
And a cop of all people, who I deeply respect for their bravery and protecting people, should know that coffee is hot, given many cops drink it with their doughnuts (just a silly stereotype statement 🙂 )
OK. Coffee is hot, although it is not necessarily hot enough to cause severe burns, unless you order it ‘extra hot’ at the counter. If that’s the case, then the coffee is about 180 Fahrenheit (82 degrees Celsius), which is not the actual boiling point of water.
Don’t get me wrong, it hurts like hell to spill coffee (or tea) over yourself and can give you some nasty + painful burn blisters. Here’s a little Mythbuster-like review of burns … not tried at home, but found on Google:
- Most adults will suffer 3rd degree burns if exposed to 150 degree water for 2 seconds
- Burns may occur with a 6 second exposure to 140 degree water
- Burns may occur with a 30 second exposure to 130 degree water
- A temperature of 120 degrees, and a 5 minute exposure may cause 3rd degree burns
In my humble opinion, this is just an attempt to get money from a large corporation for your own stupidities.
To state that it has impacted intimacy with his wife, resulted in surgery, flare-up of his Crohn’s Disease, affected his kids and caused him from not being able to do his job as a police supervisor is stretching the power of coffee a little too far.
And, do they really think it sounds realistic and generous that they reduced their original claim from $10 million to “only” $750K. How do you even calculate that number? …. DUMB ASS!! Let’s break this down, another Mythbuster-like analysis:
- $15 for dry-cleaning
- Coffee purchase $2.45 (this would most likely be refunded by Starbucks on the day)
- Embarrassing moment when dropping pants (Kodak selfie moment) – priceless
- $2 for petrol to drive 5 miles round trip to get new clothes from the house (based on fuel consumption on my El Camino)
- $10 for the ointment to rub on the affected area
- $35 co-pay for doctor’s visit
- Total possible compensation = $64.45
Shit happens. You spill coffee, you take off the clothing and put on cold water. Why did he need surgery?
No wonder so many products and companies have weird disclaimers – it’s to prevent dumb ass people to make stupid claims.
A similar case made the news a few years back and the judge threw out the case. Just Because Tea is Hot!
Europeans laugh at the Americans when they read such articles and it does not serve well for the reputation of a great Nation and its awesome people.
Now, had the waiter throw the boiling coffee on him, by accident or intentionally, then that changes the game entirely. Still not a $10 million claim. But that was not the case.
Long story short, I fully support valid claims and lawsuits to help people who are truly affected by actions or events outside their control. They need to be compensated, especially considering the insane health costs that comes with even the smallest injury.
Lawyers need to review cases more realistically and not encourage outrages claims. Would it hurt to perhaps challenge the “victim” by discussing logic with them first. If the coffee is steaming and ordered hot, then be careful. Once you take the cup, you are responsible for your own actions.
Unfortunately we have people who try their luck and who have equally greedy lawyers. As such, judges need to take a stance against these claims. It affects us all in the long-run (conspiracy theory) as prices and insurances will simply go up to recover the legal charges companies are fined with.
Be safe – Be honest – Be positive
A few barista statements that I found while searching for coffee temperatures, based on an interview with a Starbucks barista; Extra Hot Coffee – why?
1. When it’s cold outside. “When I worked at Starbucks in North Dakota, the temperatures would reach -30F plus wind chill, so drinks cooled down QUICKLY if taken outside/ordered in a drive thru,” Morgan wrote.
2. When you are ordering a milk-based drinks. Creamers, even when steamed, can cool down the temperature of a coffee. Tell the barista you want the milk steamed to 180 degrees, and it won’t negatively affect the taste of the espresso or coffee.
3. When you don’t plan to drink the coffee right away. If you want to enjoy your coffee at work but there’s a convenient Starbucks location closer to home, ordering it extra hot will keep it warm during the commute.